~ㄴ/은/는들

앞말을 가정하여 인정해도 뒤의 내용에 별로 영향을 미치지 못함을 단정적으로 나타낸다.

<~아/어도, ~(이)라도, ~(으)ㄹ지라도> 등과 유사한 의미를 갖지만, 뒤에 의문 형태나 강한 어감의 말이 오기 때문에 쉽게 다른 표현으로 바뀌지 못한다.

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그렇게 말을 안 듣는 아이가 부모 말인들 듣겠어요?

열심히 공부한들 나중에 활용할 기회가 없다면 무슨 소용이 있겠어요?

실패하고 후회한들 무슨 소용이 있겠어요?

~았/었던들

지난 날을 회상하되 현재의 결과와 반대되는 어떤 사실을 가정해 보는 뜻
뒤에는 주로 어떠했으리라는 추측을 나타내는 문장이 온다. ( —> -았/었더라면)

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여러분의 비판이 없었던들 오늘과 같은 회사의 발전은 상상조차 할 수 없었을 것입니다.

우리에게 넓은 땅이 있었던들 지금처럼 이곳저곳을 떠돌아다니지는 않았을 텐데.

더 조심했었던들 이렇게 큰 사고가 나지는 않았을 거예요.

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koreangrumblings:

nocturnalinseoul:

You will often see these common mistakes especially on SNS. Sometimes you’ll see them on variety shows, and news articles.

There’s a mistake in this post about common mistakes.

-데요 vs. -대요

The examples given for ー데요 seem to be more for the grammar ー는데요.

As the explanation in that image states, ー데요 is used when the speaker is discussing something they have experienced or seen first-hand. In that sense, it can be easily switched out for -더라고요. Unlike in the examples given in the post, -는 is not attached to -데요.

An example of the two (-는데, -데) together:

지난 주말에 친구 집들이에 갔는데 지하철역이 친구 집에서 진짜 가깝데요.

친구 집이 아파트인 줄 알았는데 원룸이데요.

친구가 살기에는 집이 커 보이데요.

자기 집이라고 예쁘게 꾸며 놓았데요.

Also, since this grammar is used for what the speaker has seen personally, it can not be used with a first person subject to describe something the speaker has done or said as is shown in the original post’s examples.

This grammar did cause a lot of confusion with -대요 in my class when we first studied it. Context is your friend when deciphering which one is being used!

Thank you for pointing this out! I didn’t even know you could use just ~데 I have only seen ~던데. I’m having trouble finding many resources on this so I’d love it if anyone has info on using just ~데 to share??

티가 나다 / 티를 내다

koreangrumblings:

koreangrumblings:

티가 나다 / 티를 내다 are expressions I had never heard before I started studying with Talk to Me in Korean’s Iyagi story.  After that, it seems to pop up everywhere from conversations with co-workers to certain reality rap competition shows.

티 has many definitions according to Naver Dictionary, but for the purposes of this expression, we’ll define 티 as an “air” or a “look”.  As in, a woman dressed up in a ball gown has an “air of elegance” about her, or if you’re shopping and come across a very thin shirt, you might think that it has a “cheap look” to it (”It looks cheap!”).  To express this in Korean, you would use either 티가 나다 or 티를 내다.

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티를 내다 can be translated into English as “to show” or “to give off a sense of”.

불안한 티를 진짜 안 내려고 했는데… I was really trying not to show how uneasy I felt…

나는 짜증이 났지만 티를 낼 수 없었다.  I was annoyed, but I couldn’t show it.

그는 나를 좋아하는 티를 낸다.  It’s obvious that he likes me.  (He’s showing signs that he likes me.)

If a friend is bad at keeping secrets, you can warn them with: 티를 내지마! Don’t be obvious about it! (Don’t show any signs that you know!)

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티가 나다 is more passive than 티를 내다.  While 티를 내다 refers to behaving in a way that gives off a certain impression, 티가 나다 is more about receiving that impression from your observations.  If your friend’s eyes are red and a little swollen, you might say to them, “I can tell you’ve been crying” or “It seems like you’ve been crying.”  티가 나다 would be used here.

언니가 옆에서 너무 불안한 티가 났다.  Standing next to her, I could tell she was really uneasy.

그 남자는 나이보다 더 늙은 티가 난다.  He seems older than his age.

내가 화장을 안 한 티가 나요?  Can you tell I’m not wearing make up? (Is it obvious that I’m not wearing make up?)

If you suspect that two of your friends are secretly dating and someone asks you how you know, you can simply respond: 티가 나잖아! I can just tell! (It’s so obvious!)

REBLOGGING FOR ADDED INFORMATION:

We recently covered this expression in my Korean class, and so I thought I would just tag some extra bits my teacher had explained to me.  Certain words and prefixes (for lack of a better term) can be attached to 티, in which case the meaning of 티 changes from being a general vibe to being a vibe connected to the attached noun.  Some examples are:

노티: signs of old age

부티: signs of wealth

촌티: signs of tackiness

아줌마 티:  middle aged woman vibes

선생님 티: teacher vibes

막내 티: youngest child vibes

귀티:  preciously raised vibes (in the sense that their parents consider them to be precious for reasons such as they are the only child or the only son or daughter)

Some scenarios in which these can be used:

If someone is well dressed in designer clothes: 와~ 부티 나네!

If people keep guessing that my age is older than it actually is, I might wonder to myself: 난 너무 노티 나나?

If a friend turns a discussion into a lecture on their latest published article: 넌 선생님 티 나니 그만해.

Please note that, according to my teacher, when it comes to nouns, this expression shouldn’t be used if the noun doesn’t match the person to whom you’re referring.  For example, 선생님 티 can only be used when speaking about someone who is actually a teacher.  If that person is not a teacher, 선생님처럼 (like a teacher) should be used:  넌 선생님처럼 얘기하는 거니 그만해.